Edited on 2011-03-16 13:01:43

This is the third month in a row that my journal has arrived looking like it went through the Gulf War prior to arrival.

Two reasons for the mutilation are the ham fisted postal employee's, or --we didn't get our last raise, so we don't care attitude--or, the fact that JCNA doesn't have the journals shipped in the thin plastic wraps often used by some magazine providers.

Suggestion: Use these thin plastic wrappers.

Results: Saves the magazine from--#1: being read by postal employee's (Oh yes they do) prior to delivery and #2: Journal arrives in good condition at members home.

Garfield
JCNF
-------a member who hates to hold pages together while trying to read.

Submitted by talburkett@gmail.com on Mon, 03/28/2011 - 15:25

Garfield,

I'd be happy to receive a copy of the Jag Club magazine....in ANY condition. I guess I'm not on the list yet. You are, of course, correct on your observations....the Samsonite Ape is gentler than many of the postal sorters!!

I can tell you my Porsche Parade Magazine comes in a white envelope and is always in good condition, but the annual fees are $55.00/yr...maybe it's that extra $10.00 that does it!

Tal Burkett
Prospect, Ohio
nc29

Submitted by SE98-32482CJ on Mon, 03/28/2011 - 13:01

Garfield anyone who knows me would assume I would look into it. At the AGM the editor discussed this and simply put the cost to "protect" all issues is just not cost effective and in some very informal polls (but reflective of the entire JCNA membership) it is simply not an issue. There have been issues no doubt but each time they have been found to be localized or in other words an issue that can only be addressed by the postal inspectors in your area. Your dues though as you post that are not $45. JCNA does not operate on all of that but a rather smaller figure. Your local club dues are included in that figure and those do not go toward the publication of the JJ. As far as telling JCNA the forums are an excellent start but the direct "telling" is to write the editor as has been suggested.

Submitted by SE98-32482CJ on Mon, 03/28/2011 - 13:01

Garfield anyone who knows me would assume I would look into it. At the AGM the editor discussed this and simply put the cost to "protect" all issues is just not cost effective and in some very informal polls (but reflective of the entire JCNA membership) it is simply not an issue. There have been issues no doubt but each time they have been found to be localized or in other words an issue that can only be addressed by the postal inspectors in your area. Your dues though as you post that are not $45. JCNA does not operate on all of that but a rather smaller figure. Your local club dues are included in that figure and those do not go toward the publication of the JJ. As far as telling JCNA the forums are an excellent start but the direct "telling" is to write the editor as has been suggested.

Submitted by vineyardman68@… on Wed, 03/23/2011 - 17:03

George,

Thank you for the reply, however, a simple "I'll look into this" would have sufficed.

I've done my part. I've told the postal office, and I told JCNA. The rest is up to you. There should be no need for me to call anyone, or ask for any kind of 'special' handling.

The magazine is nice, but it only comes out 6 times a year. My due's, like others, are $45 USD a year and to be frank, all I get for that price is the magazine, everything else offered, cost extra.

Again, I appreciate the time it took you to reply.

Garfield.

Submitted by silver007@shaw.ca on Thu, 03/17/2011 - 10:48

Occasionally in Canada J/ J turn up looking not good. 99% of the time they are great.. The dog sleds are better than pony express I guess.LOL.. Life goes on....

Submitted by NE40-48370 on Thu, 03/17/2011 - 07:41

If you want data George, all I can say is that mine always arrives in the UK spotless. The white fibrous - almost 'textile' envelopes are the toughest envelopes I have ever come across that are not padded bags. They're orders of magnitude tougher than even Manilla envelopes and are effectively destroyed by opening.

Unless the domestic journals are sent out in something different to mine, I'm not sure there is anything tougher? Silk maybe :-)

My JEC journal and Jaguar World journals come in plastic sleeve things but I can't see them being more puncture-proof and apart from maybe fitting more closely around the magazine they are no better. Both magazines are, of course, 2-3 times as thick, as are most consumer magazines, which helps resist deformation and crumpling. For a slim magazine like the Jaguar Journal, without a stiffener board or a large padded bag (can you say 'expensive'?) I'm not sure how things could be improved?

Not that there's a general need, from my own anecdotal evidence.

Submitted by SE98-32482CJ on Wed, 03/16/2011 - 13:46

Garfield is it safe to assume you have already informed the postal inspectors of this? As to the wrapper idea you are of course correct--at a price. JCNA membership in total per year is less than just some of the magazines you refer to. Would you be willing to increase your fees? If so then I suggest you contact the editor of the JJ and ask to be handled in a special manner--which will cost. As for the short term solution I will treat these as LOST and send you replacements if you call. Of the thousands that are sent out I wonder what the amount of JJ's that make it are in the shape you describe. That would be good data to have. In the last year I have sent out a ton of JCNA literature and did almost all of it by USPS. I can tell you that .003% was lost or damaged and had to be replaced. The cost of shipping this way as compared to shipping registered or UPS/Fedex more than took care of the difference by thousands of dollars--this has allowed publications the ability to offer what we do at low cost. So this is long but why not contact the editor--contact me-and contact the postal inspection service-they take their jobs seriously. George 888-258-2524.