My father is looking to buy a 67.5 E-Type from my old Scout Leader but neither gentleman knows a starting price to offer to begin haggling.
Here's the surprise twist - the car has been COMPLETELY dismantled. All parts are there, they are just in boxes. My old scout leader completely took the car apart (taking pictures and making diagrams during the progress) to begin restoring it, and then realized he didn't have the time to do it. All parts are in good condition and the body is in good condition as well aside from a cracked windshield.
If anyone has any ideas of a good price for this, or perhaps a place where I can look for information - that would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Jon Marsiglia
Submitted by pascal@jcna.com on Fri, 07/16/2004 - 14:05
Submitted by stuross41@eart… on Fri, 07/16/2004 - 13:07
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I agree with the 2 previous comments. I did a double take when I read the reply just to see if I had actually read what I though was there and didn't misinterpret those remarks. I think it is a sign of the times. People's idea of humor have changed and I hope that the Mr. Quint was just misguided in what he thought passed as humor.Fortunately, we all agree that he went beyond what passes as funny and into a more offensive area. Let us hope that he now understands that he wasn't as funny as he may have thought when he wrote that, and he (and others) will refrain from stepping into that area of comments in the future.
1974 XKE OTS
2000 S-Type V8
Submitted by NE52-32043 on Fri, 07/16/2004 - 11:05
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Jeff,
I had not seen this, but I agree with you completely. There is no place for comments like that on our forum. I will email Pascal and request that he delete that entry to the forum immediately.
Having a sense of humor is one thing. It's more than welcome here. But comments like those made by Mr. Quint are repugnant and contrary to standards of conduct we expect of list participants.
Steve Weinstein, JTC-NJ
JCNA Northeast Regional Director
Submitted by jklein@genphys… on Fri, 07/16/2004 - 06:59
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Dear Mr. Quint,
Your reply has no place on this site. I don't care how "funny" you think you might be or how much you were "just joking". Your post is truly repugnant and out of order. I suggest you take your sense of humor to "Last Comic Standing" and don't give up your day job. This site is for Jaguar enthusiasts to trade information, and yes, relative humor and stories. It is not a place for crude, sophmoric nonsense. I suggest you apologize to the listers or sign off.
Jeff Klein
1970 OTS, BRG
Submitted by peterquintnow@… on Thu, 07/15/2004 - 20:39
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Well Jon, after reading your predicament, I think I can offer some advice to you. Some people may says that pricing an E-type in progress of restoration, even its eariest stages of deconstruction, is a difficult thing to do. There are several factors as to starting a project such as this, the first being the price.
Negotiating a fair price would typically involve looking at the dismantled parts and determining the value of each seperate piece based on its condition, etc. Several other items to consider are whether or not the E-type was modified with an airconditioner, modified to run on unleaded fuel, etc.
All in all though the value of the car is very simple. Seeing as it is you old Scout leader, simply approach him by letting him know that no money will change hands, but the car will become yours without his objection. After saying this, remind your scout leader of the pictures you have of him and the other little boys on his sail boat in the middle of Vermillion Bay on that one overnighter. If this is not enough to seal the deal, give him one more "oral" compliment as a bonus and something to remember you and the car by.
Best luck, please be sure to send me pictures!!
Peter Quint
Submitted by NE52-32043 on Thu, 07/01/2004 - 11:24
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Jon,
With all due respect to Lonnie, I don't think ebay is the place to figure out the worth of this project to either of them. There is a fairly good price charge on the Classic Jaguar website (www.classicjaguar.com). That's a starting point, but remember, that's for a completely assembled, running car.
I think the real question is: How much work is it going to take to put this thing back together? Obviously, parts have value. But so does the time, effort and inevitable money that will need to be spent on parts, refurbishing, paint, etc. From my point of view, a completely disassembled car ain't worth a whole heck of a lot.
First and foremost, you have to look at the "tub", i.e., the body. These cars are a monocoque design, which means their entire structural integrity is based on the body structure running from front to back under the doors. If the sills have rust in them, you are looking at major work to make the car safe and sound. Bondo repairs to the sills can leave you with a car that is either unsound or worse, unsafe. If you and your father are not well versed in restoration of old cars, and old Jags in particular, have someone who really knows these cars look at it. If there is trouble in the body/tub, the rest of it is only worth what you can sell the parts for.
IMHO. The excitement of taking on a project and working on it can be exhilerating and get the best of you. Unless you really know what you're doing, don't get trapped into a money pit and a major headache. My $.02.
Steve Weinstein, JTC-NJ
'72 E-type 2+2
'70 XKE FHC
Submitted by lonniemcminn@c… on Wed, 06/30/2004 - 17:37
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try monitoring eBay for some ideas. Setup a login and look at completed bids for a history of what people ask vs. what they get:
http://motors.listings.ebay.com/Jaguar_XKE_W0QQsacategoryZ6277QQsocmdZLi...
Good Luck!
the offending post has been removed and such behavior will not be tolerated... his posting privileges have been suspended.
Pascal Gademer
jcna webmaster