Submitted by bsheridan@rest… on Thu, 12/18/2008 - 15:56

Does anyone in the club have experience in building an XK120 roadster kit car? There is one on eBay for $10,500. If you can't afford the real thing is this the way to go? Do an eBay search for "XK120 Roadster" to see the car. Any advice?

Submitted by bob5837@roadru… on Thu, 01/29/2009 - 16:42

To Steve DAngelo,

Regarding the extra copy of the build manual for the Antiques and collectible XK120, I sent you a check for $5 as requested. Any idea when you will mail the copy to me? I want to verify when the build dat was for chassis# 670640. It was first sold in California in 1952 but club member Michael Eck said it was built in August 1950.

I wonder why there is a 2 year difference between buld date and sold date?

In case you lost my mailing address it is: 1407 Foothill Blvd #71, La Verne, CA 91750

Thanks, Bob

By the way - I have decided to restore my 1950 XK120 roadster racer and have just put the XK120 roadster replica on eBay for someone interested in a new project for the summer.

See recent picture below...

Submitted by bob5837@roadru… on Mon, 01/19/2009 - 16:05

Hi Michael,
My mailing address is::

Bob Sheridan
1407 Foothill Blvd #71
La Verne, CA 91750

Cell phone: (909) 267-0012

Give me your mailing address & cost so I can mail you a check.

By the way - if anyone is interested in buying my 1954 XK120 Roadster fiberglass kit already installed on a chassis (a huge time savings) email me for details and current photos. I will be putting it up on eBay next week. I have almost $5K invested in it. It will make a nice XK120 project for someone who can't afford the real deal.

I have decided to restore the 1950 XK120 race car chassis with an original Jag body instead of using the fiberglass body.

See picture of the fiberglass body & chassis below.

My email is bsheridanatrestaurantplus.com

Submitted by MikeEck@optonl… on Sun, 01/04/2009 - 10:53

Bob,

What happened to your original number 670640? Now you say that the chassis number is 670176. Where did you find that number? Do you have the original ID plate?

If you truly have 670176 then it is an interesting find and should be more thoroughly investigated before anything else is done. Please verify the chassis number for us by looking on the top of the left master cylinder attachment bracket and on the front cross member.

Submitted by bob5837@roadru… on Sat, 01/03/2009 - 21:48

To Michael Eck,

RE: the XK120 Racer I just bought:

Chassis # 670176
Engine # W 4757-8 (matching head)

Can you or someone tell me if the engine goes with the Chassis?

Thanks, Bob Sheridan

Submitted by SW03-09811 on Sat, 01/03/2009 - 01:01

Bob,
If the car turns out as you describe, it would most appropriately belong in JCNA's Special Division Class S3 which is for production cars that have been substantially customized or modified. (If it were entered in Champion or Driven Divisions, the fiberglass body, and any non-standard fittings, would bring very large point deductions.)

To be eligible for Class S3, the Entry must have a minimum of 35 points of deductions for non-authentic judged items. Your fiberglass body would more than satisfy that requirement.

Good luck,
Dick Cavicke

Submitted by MikeEck@optonl… on Fri, 01/02/2009 - 17:42

Congratulations on your purchases. I think you are especially lucky to get that chassis and running gear for such a reasonable price.

While it may have a 1952 registration, Chassis #670640 was manufactured in August of 1950 and it did not have footwell vents or defrosters, and the heater was an option. Look on the vertical aluminum in front of the front sparkplug for the head number Also look on the top of the cast iron boss to which the aluminum oil filter housing is bolted for the block number and post those numbers for us. I suspect that your head is not original since it has too many cam cover nuts. Not that it matters for your project, it's just of interest.

Did you test fit your original aluminum bonnet onto the fiberglass body? Since the body was manufactured to fit on a different chassis there is no guarantee that it is exactly the same size as the original car, or will fit on the original XK120 chassis.

All parts can be had, for a price. You can even purchase a complete new body. Search ebay under "jaguar xk body". Jorge also makes many of the chrome parts.

Best of luck to you!

www.jaguarclock.com
'51 XK120 OTS
'62 3.8 MK2 MOD
'72 SIII E-Type 2+2

Submitted by bob5837@roadru… on Fri, 01/02/2009 - 15:23

To Steve, Petr, Thomas, et. al.,

I bought the XK120 Kit Car for $3100 and had it shipped to California only to find that the chrome parts were not in the trunk. The mid-eastern immigrant driver pleaded innocent (no speaka the english very well). Since the seller did not make sure the chrome parts were included on the bill of lading, I am screwed out of the parts. Lesson: when shipping by truck, make sure seller writes down exactly whats being shipped on truckers bill of lading.
The fiberglass body is very useable and needs only a few fabrication changes (engine compartment firewall, battery box, etc.).

I also purchased an original 1952 XK120 roadster for $9,000. The roadster was apparantly raced by the owner then crashed and the body was apparantly totaled. Then someone removed the damaged body and fitted on a corny looking (30's style) racing body in 1955, the last year the car was registered in California. The car was raced locally near Red Bluff, California and ended up in a garage until the person died, then was sold to the person I bought it from. It's estimated that the car has no more that 25,000 miles on the engine for no more than 3 years before it eas converted to a local racer. I connected with the car and the owner (who needs money) and want to save the car's life so to speak. The car didn't have a real chance in life to be what she could be and has been stuck in the body of the hoaky looking racer. So I am going to spend the time and money to restore her back to a 1952 roadster.

I have a couple questions for any JCNA members reading this:

If I put a fiberglass body on an original Jaguar (Chassis No 670640) with original matching engine, transmission, steel wheels, etc. will I be able to show the car as a true Jaguar? There will be some small differences on the "inside" such as how the doors attach (safer hinges and door latch), etc.). Outwardly it will look just like a 1952 XK120 roadster including the chrome running lights. I am even putting on an original aluminum hood that I have left over from 20 years ago when I saved the life of a 1951 XK120 roadster (had a Corvette 2-cylinder engine).

Does anyone know if 1952 XK120 roadster had the side vents as an option? My body does not have vents however I can add them if needed for correctness.

Did the 1952 XK120 have the defroster vents and a heater?

Does anyone have any extra XK120 parts they can make me an affordable price on? I am retired on a fixed income and I spent all my extra money to get these two cars.

I need the following items: grille, front and rear bumpers (and brackets) headlight pods and chrome rims, chrome spears, chrome driving lights, real tail light assemblies, license plate light assembly, horn manette control (horn assembly etc.), all gauges and mounting piece for the gauges, wiper motor assemblies, wiper arms, etc., I need a complete windshield assembly, seat slide assemblies, Lucas battery covers.

Thanks and happy New Year to all, Bob Sheridan, La Verne, California

Here's a picture of the XK120 racer body.

Submitted by bob5837@roadru… on Tue, 12/23/2008 - 18:33

Hi Steve,

The seller has informed me that the car has a bunch of missing chrome parts in the trunk, which adds quite a bit of value to the car as you know.

Can you post a picture of your kit car? Why do you want to sell it?

This car on eBay intriques me for some reason. With new paint and the missing chrome pieces it could look great.

Submitted by bob5837@roadru… on Tue, 12/23/2008 - 11:48

Hey Steve,

I called Antiques and Collectable (acautos.com) in Buffalo, NY and they stopped selling the XK120 kit 4 years ago. I tried calling Eagle Coach Works today but no answer on the phone. Person at acauto said in took several hours to get in to the office due to heavy snow.

If Eagle Coach Works has gone out of business (their website & telephone still work) I can get chrome pieces from the UK from a kit company called Nostalgia.

I have $9K maximum to bid on the car. Sometimes there are bidding frenzies at the end of an eBay listing. So if another JCNA member wants the car I will not go higher than $9K.

If no one in the U.S is making the XK120 kit any longer then it seems like an even better value.

Submitted by bob5837@roadru… on Mon, 12/22/2008 - 22:17

Hi Micheal,

Thanks. Good idea. I restored a 1951 XK120 OTS about 20 years ago then had to sell due to a divorce. I have wanted another XK120 ever since. Hence my enthusiasm to get even a XK120 kit car.

Submitted by bob5837@roadru… on Mon, 12/22/2008 - 20:10

Hi Steve,

The seller faxed me some info on Eagle Coach Works (dated 9/5/2008). They are located at 200 Colorado, Buffalo, NY.

Frame Price is $2,495 (Tubular frame, bolted onto a Ford Pinto, Mustang II running gear "donor car")

Standard Kit Price is $14,685 (Fibergalss panels, chrome assemblies, upholstery & trim, instruments)

Package Price is $17,880

They will sell components separately (i.e. chrome assmemblies, upholstery, etc.)

Although the 1954 XK120 Roadster Replica shown on eBay was not manufactured by Eagle, it is very similar and is already assembled and mounted to a Ford Pinto or Mustang II chassis. To me, it would be worth the $9K you previously said the seller wants. Either me or someone else who outbids me could buy the chrome items (fron and rear bumpers, windshield, windshield glass, sealed beam lights, taillights, trunk hinges, locking trunk handle, grille, etc. directly from Eagle. I have sent an email to infoateaglecoachwork.com to see what it would cost.

I still think buying this kit car would be a good deal for me or someone else who outbids me. Having a pre-assembled body ready to add an engine, etc. would be a "huge" time savings. Everything left to do is all the fun stuff!

Thanks Steve.

Submitted by bob5837@roadru… on Sun, 12/21/2008 - 02:14

Steve,

I got an answer to question about the $17,000 xk120 replica in NY. It is currently available from Eagle Coach Works, Buffalo, NY. Complete kit $17,880 (tubular frame, body panels, etc.). You stil need to buy front and rear end, steering, and more. So the jaguar xk120 roadster replica being offered on ebay MAY be worth up to $9,000, especially if it is already pre-assembled on a chassis. having it already assembled MUST save some hefty labor costs not to mention lots of time. Whats left is the FUN stuff.

Bob

Submitted by bob5837@roadru… on Sat, 12/20/2008 - 21:10

Hi Steve,

Thanks for the info. I am replying so anyone else seeing this will have info. When you say a kit is $13K complete -what comes with it? In looking at kits from the UK they sell 8 panels in one kit, all the chrome trim in another kit (option), Seats, upholstery in another kit, etc. I'm referring to Nostalgia replica cars.

Did you purchase a XK120 kit from a U.S. company? Can you recommend one to contact?

I believe the eBay seller has pulled the $9K price or whatever from the ad. Kowing about kits the way you do, what would be your highest bid for that particular car? It may be missing a lot of expensive stuff but is a start. I am on a tight budget now that I am retired and am thinking about bidding on the car.

Bob

Submitted by bob5837@roadru… on Sat, 12/20/2008 - 01:34

Steve - if you're still out there!
I don't know why but the eBay listing kept changing.

Here is the latest item number: 300281986609 or search for "Jaguar XK120 Roadster"

Can someone look at the above eBay listing and give advice? I want an XK120 roaster (doesn't everyone) but cannot spend the big bucks now that I am retired. Is a kit car of this type a viable restoration project? I care more about enjoying an XK120 (real or not) and am not planning on showing it. This car looks like much of the hard work has already been done (installing the fiberglass body panels to the chassis).

Bob

Submitted by bob5837@roadru… on Fri, 12/19/2008 - 01:17

Follow up question:
does anyone have an "XK120 chassis" without a body or with a severely damaged or parted out body for sale? With matching engine and transmission would be even better. Can someone help me to locate the above? Bob